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I'm Jason McClellan I'm here with

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Maureen Elsberry and Shane herd and

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we're happy you're here to hang out with

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us today we'll be discussing another

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episode of history's project Bluebook

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today but first a few announcements

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Maureen and I are presenting a panel at

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Emerald City Comicon in Seattle

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Washington

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on Friday March 15 titled real-life

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x-files strange stories of real

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paranormal investigations Emerald City

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Comic Con runs from March 14th through

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the 17th at the Washington State

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Convention Center for more information

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about the event and to buy tickets go to

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Emerald City Comicon calm then June 21st

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through the 23rd Ryan Sprague and I will

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be speaking at alien Con in Los Angeles

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California and you just might see Shane

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and whirring there too we'll certainly

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be talking much more about alien Con as

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it gets closer the alien con comm is the

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events website that's where you should

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go to learn more about the event and

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it's where you can grab tickets and

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Shane and I will be at UFO Megacon and

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Laughlin Nevada on March 30th as the

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name implies UFO Megacon is a pretty big

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it runs from March 24th through the 30th

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and it features something like 40

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speakers check out UFO Megacon comm for

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all the info on that event alright with

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announcements out of the way let's get

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into this week's project Bluebook

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discussion as I mentioned or as I like

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to mention on every episode for those

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who might not be familiar with this show

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the TV network history launched this new

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dramatic series this season titled

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Project Blue Book this fictional series

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is based on the u.s. air force's

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real-life official UFO study that ran

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from 1952 through 1969 all of the show

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is fictional interesante real Project

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Blue Book cases and the show's

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protagonist is a character named dr. J

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Allen Hynek a real individual who served

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as a scientific advisor to the

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government on Project Blue Book and its

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predecessors project sign and project

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grudge

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episode 5 featured a UFO related

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phenomenon known as Foo Fighters no not

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the band of the same name although this

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phenomenon

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is the source of the band's name some of

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you are probably aware the Dave Grohl

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the frontman of the band Foo Fighters is

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a self-admitted UFO fanatic in addition

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to naming his band after something

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ufo-related he's also the president of

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Roswell Records which is an imprint of

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RCA Records and the label also has a

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film subsidiary Roswell films just a

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little bit of fun info for you there but

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back to Foo Fighters the historical

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phenomenon not the band Maureen is going

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to give us a brief overview of the real

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Foo Fighter phenomenon Maureen sure well

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first off this is a day early but I

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believe this Tuesday is extraterrestrial

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culture day so happy extraterrestrial

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culture day is really will participate

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so yeah the Foo Fighters is was kind of

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a common phenomenon especially during

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World War 2 area times so spotted all

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over the world pretty much but there are

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some main cases and I'll just cover

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super briefly that the most popular

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incident that happened in November of

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1944 but basically there were reports

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coming in from the 415 night fighter

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squadron that there were red and orange

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like fireballs that were chasing their

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planes and out maneuvering them and they

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weren't spotted on radar or scene from

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other places and they said that they

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spotted these objects moving about 200

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miles per hour next to the planes and

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had no idea what they were so this gets

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talked about these are pilots they're

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trained to identify things in the sky

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scared they didn't know what it was many

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people you know once this started

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getting press the term Foo Fighters I

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should say comes from a comic strip so

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the one of the pilots called them Foo

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Fighters off of this this smokey Stover

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comic and which he was a fan of so you

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know kind of unknown fireball kind of

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thing and people didn't know what it was

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during war so they it wasn't really like

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them but they were concerned you know is

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this military weapon of some sort we do

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not know and it was generally thought

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that perhaps it was a German secret

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weapon that wasn't really attacking you

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know being tested or other people have

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suggested you know this is something

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that again was investigated by Blue Book

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and was a feature for the Robinson panel

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Robertson's panel when that was I think

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in the 50s so you know was this static

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electricity some people accused it of

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being st. st. Elmo's fire some sort of

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ball lightning but these were objects

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that that you know we're coming up in a

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formation of eight to ten sometimes

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people spotted them by themselves that

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we're moving at extreme rates speed that

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were out maneuvering these fighter

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pilots so a concern because again

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unknown objects in the sky prior to us

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talking about this we've talked before

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about how if it's a threat in the

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airspace if you don't know what exactly

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it is so these were really a mysterious

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and then have been reported all over the

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place since then and there's again like

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explanations people have suggested but

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this is still technically an unknown

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case that we didn't know what these what

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these items were yeah like you said

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especially during wartime

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you know our thoughts were you know this

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must be the other side having some

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technology that we don't know about but

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at the same time that's what they were

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thinking when they were saying that I'm

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saying no this must be something the

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Americans have we got to figure out what

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this is because this clearly isn't us so

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if you have all all sides having these

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same thoughts and the answer ultimately

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was no that's not harsh we don't know

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whose it is so yeah in fact I think they

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Pacific Theaters so they were you know

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wasn't just Germans just Americans but

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even included the Japanese yes if I

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remember correctly Jason wasn't there

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there's a big case of Foo Fighters above

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Alaska that was widely reported or am I

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making that up no I don't think you're

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making that up but I can't recall so I

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don't remember that but now that you say

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that that definitely rings a bell yeah

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I'm pretty sure we did some sort of

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article or something on it one day we

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did I'm googling this right now yeah

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it's so hard and I will say this like I

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mentioned to you guys and like Jason

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said you know Foo Fighters the band's

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name is taken from this so if you're

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interested in this case and you want to

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do your research on it you have to be a

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little more aggressive with your keyword

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research because if you search Foo

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Fighters or Foo Fighters UFO you're not

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going to get a whole ton of information

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outside of you know UFO merch on the Foo

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Fighters band website there's nothing

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wrong with that either yeah that's cool

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yeah but it's probably not what you're

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looking for well now that we have the

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history what did you think of how Foo

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Fighters were portrayed in the recent

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project Bluebook episode chain yeah I

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thought it was pretty cool actually the

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entire episode there are a couple things

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that caught my eye one was the character

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fuller and if you remember he's the

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pilot from the Gorman case or Gorman

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himself from the very first episode and

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I was thinking you know why why didn't

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they use this real name you know at the

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time it like they're using you know dr.

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Hynek and stuff and then I realized you

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know this this guy is a fictional

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character that's threaded through all of

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the episodes so far and so that's

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probably why they you know fictionalized

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his name so they could continue to use

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them throughout you know these episodes

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so such that that was kind of cool and

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you know that's at the point that it

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done done the other thing I thought was

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kind of interesting

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they dropped by f-bomb in that show I

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couldn't believe it I I mean they

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there's a little language there but and

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it was Quinn who did it did you guys

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notice that no I didn't catch that it's

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part of it's part of such my everyday no

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yeah that is funny and it's fun I need

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to go back and watch now yeah alright

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you have to watch them twice because

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you're gonna miss things if you just

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kind of skim through it yeah you know I

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thought was really ridiculous in this

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episode as I was laughing I'm like oh

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great so now we officially have turned

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the food fighter pilots into UFO

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summoners yeah oh yeah yeah I thought

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that was pretty ridiculous like oh here

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their pickup yeah from washing machines

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me because one of the things about the

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Foo Fighters sightings and cases is that

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these are coming from really credible

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witnesses and UFO summoning is not

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something I really hold super high

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regard of personally so I don't know it

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was a little dismissive for me but one

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thing I did enjoy in this episode is

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because there are so many pilots you

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know the character Quinn you can see him

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start processing this and saying look

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these are the guys that you know I was

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in combat with these people these are my

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boys you know and I can tell how

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affected they are by whatever happened

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to them and you know they all have these

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similar stories of being taken away and

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having your brain wiped and so he starts

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realizing that there might be something

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to this and you can see he's starting to

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understand that maybe the people he's

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working for her aren't - aren't such

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great guys oh yeah it doesn't think too

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that you know I thought was kind of

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interesting I don't know maybe I misread

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it see what you guys think but did it

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look like that they were trying to

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incorporate what are they called number

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number stations you know over the radio

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and where someone this voice just lists

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several numbers and it repeats and

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repeats did you catch that yeah

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yeah I thought that was interesting and

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that that's really you know a tie to the

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50s and the whole spy thing where you

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the receivers know what they mean and

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blah blah blah but yeah I thought that's

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kind of interesting detail to weave into

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this whole thing as well and I'm sure

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they just oh go ahead

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I like how you bring up that that

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weaving because that's a big big focus I

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think of the creators here and they're

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trying to in their ten episode series to

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weave as much as they can into this

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storyline into this world that they're

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creating and a lot of it you know from

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Lou UFO lore just sort of even though it

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might not have anything to do with a

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particular case that they're they're

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using from that particular episode or

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the time period that they're necessarily

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talking about they're weaving a lot of

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stuff from UFO lore into this series and

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you know there are plenty of people who

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think that is a bad thing because it you

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know creates a false impression or or

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gives people the wrong information

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but honestly anybody who's taking what

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they see on TV and using that you know

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as real information probably needs a

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little help but you know it's a it's a

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good in my mind it's a good starting

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point for people to get those those

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wheels turning and to get the the

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interest there so people start doing the

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research and looking into these things

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themselves looking into you not only the

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cases but also these interesting things

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that are being woven into the story that

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do come from UFO lore so I like it being

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a UFO geek I've said it before I enjoy

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seeing all those things thrown in there

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because you know you watch these these

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episodes you know oh yeah they're

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pulling that from that particular thing

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from from UFO history and it's fun for

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me but I can see the other side people

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being displeased at the

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misrepresentation of history yeah and it

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was just announced this weekend that

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they got renewed for season two yeah

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that's right so

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in accuracy and or accuracy coming your

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way that's right a whole season yeah

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yeah you know there's a lot of programs

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on on these channels that are like that

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right and and it is oh it's this blend

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of you know fact and fiction that that

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frankly makes really awesome stories I

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mean you know it's great entertainment

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but yeah you do have to be discerning

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about you know those facts and don't

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take it to the bank but thing is is you

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know there will be two kinds of people

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right those who are intrigued enough to

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do some personal research and discover

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you know the accuracies and then you

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have people that are really just looking

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for entertainment and and you know

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they'll watch it just for that and

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they're not gonna research it any

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further and you know that's fine -

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that's right Shane both of those are

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perfectly fine because you know what not

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everybody needs to research UFOs again

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we like to say UFOs is not a religion

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although a big chunk of it does hinge on

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belief it's not a religion and it

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doesn't need to be forced down people's

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throats and we don't need to convince

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people and tell them how they should

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believe or what they should believe

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that's we're all individuals people need

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to make up their own minds and decide

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how and what they want to do with this

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information if anything at all for a

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good chunk of people watching this show

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they're enjoying the entertainment value

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they're casually interested in the

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subject they're enjoying a good show

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about that subject if that's what they

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want to do that's perfectly fine yeah

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and stay away from with the religion

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stuff I mean I was just watching a

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documentary about Heaven's Gate the

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other day if that was it's pretty

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dangerous a different kind of UFO

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religion know that you don't want to be

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a part of yeah yeah scary stuff yeah

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well as usual I like to point out that

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history provides information about the

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real cases they use for inspiration and

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project Bluebook right on the network's

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website they show this information

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immediately following the episodes when

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they air on television but if you're

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interested in hearing even more I

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recommend visiting history's website

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which is history calm to watch the short

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videos they've produced that feature UFO

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historian Richard Dolan and the lauded

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UFO research

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you're shocked valet they're pretty

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interesting and they're right on the

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website you can watch them for free so

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check that out if you're interested and

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I just want to mention for our friends

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in the UK who have been dying to see

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Project Blue Book it was just announced

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that sci-fi acquired the rights to bring

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Project Blue Book to the UK so look for

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that in March also as Maureen mentioned

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history has ordered a second season of

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Project Blue Book so we'll have ten new

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episodes to look forward to next year

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it's cool to see how successful the

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series has been for history and

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according to Entertainment News website

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Deadline Hollywood Project Blue Book has

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helped quote propel history - the number

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one entertainment network in cable on

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Tuesday nights in prime among total

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viewers that's huge so congrats to those

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guys I'm looking forward to more of this

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show and we're only halfway through

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season 1 so we still got plenty more to

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go on this season so episode 6 of

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Project Blue Book airs on February 12th

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and that episode is titled

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the green fireballs I am fascinated to

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see what they do with this is we all

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know green fireballs are still to this

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day commonly reported UFOs so I have

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seen one myself I have as well pretty

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sure was a meteor but yeah yeah in here

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well it's interesting I look forward to

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it well citizens as we wrap up this

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all the strange thanks again for hanging

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out with us today I'm Jason McClellan

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I'm Maureen Elsberry

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and I'm Shane herd do us a favour

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friends always treat the UFO subject

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with the cautious and responsible

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skepticism it deserves question

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everything have the courage to form your

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own opinions keep truth as the focus of

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your quest even if the truth conflicts

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with your own opinions and of course

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stay strange

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